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Frumpy Girl? by LimeGreenSquid Frumpy Girl? by LimeGreenSquid
Wow, a clothed girl in my gallery! What's up with that?
Hehe, well, i had gotten some (what i find to be strange) comments over the last few months by people saying they were uncomfortable with nudity, and they wished the image they commented on was clothed, but they appreciated the message anyway.

So, here's a clothed girl, for those uncomfortable with the natural.

Plus i have a question.
When someone says a girl looks frumpy, this is the kinda girl i picture. Which i think is attractive. Do i have that right? Is this the definition of "Frumpy" or am i way off?

Anyway, arm hair on girls is sexy.
Do most girls shave their arms, or do they naturally tend to not have as much hair there? Anyhoo, i've always liked it, so yah.

This is not based on anyone in real life or celebrity (although for some reason her face reminds me of the character Cindy in Freaks and Geeks - just the same type of friendly smile), she's just random things i imagine when i hear the word "frumpy" - although i also picture a cardigan sweater, as well, but i wanted to have her shoulders bare.
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CeceliaSan Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2009
Holy shit, it's me.
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LimeGreenSquid Featured By Owner Feb 27, 2009  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Hehe, sweet. You must be pretty hot, then!
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CeceliaSan Featured By Owner Mar 22, 2009
Hmm... I kinda see frumpy as a slimmer girl dressed in clothes that don't suit her figure. ...and not matching. xD We can't forget that.
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BurntFae Featured By Owner Jun 8, 2008   Photographer
I believe frumpy is based on clothing - clothes that are too big and baggy and shapeless for whomever is wearing them. Slimmer/skinny women can be just as easily frumpy...it's usually someone who's afraid of or uncomfortable with showing their form...or just don't know how to dress it! There are several reasons really, but it usually comes back to fear and insecurity. The definition of frumpy is broader (plain, dowdy, drab, old-fashioned, unattractive, unfashionable), but I think modernly it's used mostly the way I described it.

Ah! I have never personally met anyone with the... preferences you have. Living in Dutch land really helps out a gal like me... so skinny, so blonde. And this for the majority of my teen years. I miss diversity.
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LimeGreenSquid Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2008  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Hmmm, makes sense.
And aww. Gotta be some who appreciate real women! We just tend to be very shy, hehe.
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BurntFae Featured By Owner Jul 22, 2008   Photographer
No... no. In fact, you probably don't exist either. ;p
But seriously... not here. Though it really wouldn't matter. So...wooh.
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FeddieChick Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2008
hahah. I think that's me. ^_^ I'm always saying how frumpy I am, and my husband says "you're not frumpy" but if this girl is frumpy... then so am I!

love her!
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LimeGreenSquid Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2008  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Hehe, well, it's the idea i've always had in my own head about the word Frumpy (i think it came from Sally on Third Rock from the Sun) - but a lot of people don't agree with what my mind sees, hehe. This kinda frumpy girl i think is hot and sexy. But the main definition most people go by is not, unfortunately.
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Cortini Featured By Owner May 16, 2008
I use the word "frumpy" to mean *anything* lol.... it's such a great word. Especially when I am grouchy and kinda depressed, or just feeling stir crazy...feelin' frumpy, y'know? Before I decided it was a wonderful anything-word, i always thought of it as old-lady-ish, or overly feminine in a ruffly, floral, single old cat-lady kind of way.
This is a very cute drawing, I love her little curled toes! She definitely seems hippy, though. Mostly, the tattoo, low-cut top, bead necklace...cute CUTE!
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LimeGreenSquid Featured By Owner May 19, 2008  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Haha, cool!
And thanks on the curled toes, because i just wanted to try something different and people don't always stand still in perfect poses, right? hehe.
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Cortini Featured By Owner May 22, 2008
word.
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shadedangel Featured By Owner Apr 14, 2008  Hobbyist Writer
After viewing both of the frumpy girls, this one is my fav...I'm not sure why.
I think they are both good expamles of frumpiness...
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LimeGreenSquid Featured By Owner May 23, 2008  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Hehe, thanks. Yah, this one's my favorite, too.
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VirusC Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2008
Ugh... frumpy is an opinion thing. It means to be dowdy or badly dressed. So, if you think she's badly dressed, then yes, she is frumpy.
But I like her skirt. I imagine it to be brown green and light green respectively. And the shirt to have purple, pink and brown. And her hair to ether be red or brown.
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LimeGreenSquid Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2008  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Well, i like how she's dressed myself, so i dunno! Hehe, and thank you. I hadn't thought of those colours. When i usually do a black and white drawing, skirts like this tend to be black and gold in my head. I don't really know why - perhaps from my days studying photos of belly dancers ...

Anyway...

Frumpy in my mind has always been more of a posture type thing ... slouched shoulders, body fat that sags a little more than most fat girls, wearing tank-tops or t-shirts with cardigans and geeky dress pants (damn, i should have drawn her with geeky dress pants, too - i really just drew a hippy girl, didn't i? i should attempt this again) - but i've always found those traits to be sexy in my mind's description of the word, hehe.
(I'm probably copying and pasting this portion of the comment to everyone since i'm gonna have to re-type my own thoughts about it again for each one anyway, haha)
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VirusC Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2008
I figured you enjoyed this girl. I mean, I gave you the literal definition of the word. Doesn't mean it has to mean that to you... haha... I feel like all articulation varies in meaning between people anyway!
Thats kind of what I thought you would have done. I know a lot of people are going to try to set you straight... haha. Well, I guess I did that to in essence, but I thought you were honestly asking what it meant.
Those colors would look terrible on some people, but she looks like she could pull it off no problem!!! Sometimes frumpy clothing looks so good on the right people.... or are they the wrong people?
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LimeGreenSquid Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2008  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Oh yes, i was asking what others thought it meant, but i just also wanted to let people know what i thought - not that it's more right or wrong or anything. To see if anyone else thought as i did. It seems i'm in the minority on my description of that word, haha.
I love those colors - brown, green and light green together. It never came to me ... maybe i shall try to draw someone wearing those colors some day ...
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Nubianplains Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2008
Any full-bodied hippy lovely - heavenly!
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LimeGreenSquid Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2008  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I'm not sure i fully understand the grammar of this, hehe, but thank you very much! And i agree!
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rachelillustrates Featured By Owner Apr 1, 2008  Professional Traditional Artist
This is awesome and beautiful and full of love :glomp: I know this probably won't mean anything by the time you read this, but I really needed to see something like this today. So thank you :) She is gorgeous..... :+favlove:

As for the word "frumpy", I've assumed it described not only a fat, squat physical appearance but a rather...cranky and ignorant outlook and personality. When frumpy is used to refer just to a fat girl, though, I take offense because its usually used offensively in a "she's too fat" kind of way. So yeah. I say screw that. Frumpy in that context is hot :D

And poo to whoever complained about your nudes! That's ridiculous. I think part of the power of your BBW images is that they depict strong, self-confident women who are comfortable enough in their skin to be nude in the first place! Seriously. So even though I love this piece, please please please don't stop doing nudes. They are too amazing to go away :)
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LimeGreenSquid Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2008  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Aww, i'm glad you were able to see this when you needed it, then! And thank you!
And thank you also about what you said about my bbw nudes having that power ... that helps me feel more justified. And don't worry, i'll never tire of drawing nudes! But i should try to draw clothing more ... i really need to learn how to properly draw geeky dress pants (as explained in the below copied-pasted description of "frumpy" in my mind)...

Frumpy in my mind has always been more of a posture type thing ... slouched shoulders, body fat that sags a little more than most fat girls, wearing tank-tops or t-shirts with cardigans and geeky dress pants (damn, i should have drawn her with geeky dress pants, too - i really just drew a hippy girl, didn't i? i should attempt this again) - but i've always found those traits to be sexy in my mind's description of the word, hehe.
(I'm probably copying and pasting this portion of the comment to everyone since i'm gonna have to re-type my own thoughts about it again for each one anyway, haha)
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rachelillustrates Featured By Owner Apr 12, 2008  Professional Traditional Artist
Hehehe, you're welcome, and you didn't have to copy and paste that you know ;p I read it earlier. But as for that, I do agree with the posture thing, and I should have mentioned it before.
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LimeGreenSquid Featured By Owner Apr 14, 2008  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Hehe, yah, i don't know how many people actually read comments other than their own, so i figured i'd do it for everyone before i submitted the second image.
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hollowfyre Featured By Owner Apr 1, 2008
Her style kinda reminds me of my own. She just looks comfy to me =) Nice work as usual
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LimeGreenSquid Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2008  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Hehe, thank you. Then you must have lovely style!
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diosaperdida Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2008  Professional General Artist
hmmm...even though I have dark hair everywhere...I have light hair on my arms. So maybe other women tend to also. I do shave mine because of tattoos.
I don't think there is anything at all wrong with liking what you like.
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LimeGreenSquid Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2008  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Shaving for tattoos, i can understand more. But to do it just because of the hair seems odd to me, you know? Like vacuuming a wall.
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diosaperdida Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2008  Professional General Artist
umm...I vacuum my walls...

only occasionally... :giggle:

spider webs...
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LimeGreenSquid Featured By Owner May 23, 2008  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
haha, well, makes sense if you put it that way...
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amphagori Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2008   Writer
Well, frumpy no. To me thought the clothes look ill fitting. Not saying she shouldn't show what she's got, just hold herself more. A sfor arm hair, I shave mine, seem I'm the only one here, heh, but its because my hair is so dark that it makes me look dirty. I have no objections to women so shaving, in fact I think its admirable. Do what you want and be comfortable, which is why I shave. So dark it looks like I don't wash, and humidity and hair...ick. Also keeps me cooler in the summer. *shrug*
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LimeGreenSquid Featured By Owner May 23, 2008  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I suppose if women feel it's better to shave then i guess - but they wouldn't even think about it if it didn't become this huge double-standard, almost law. No one would feel obligated to shave anything if they weren't told that they have to at a very young age - all because of some stupid social opinion. That's the part i don't like.
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amphagori Featured By Owner May 24, 2008   Writer
agreed....I dislike the trend of unsexing women too. Along with hyper-skinny rolemodels and other strange physical expectations its just one more way to control a group who might otherwise realise they have just as much power and ability as anyone else.
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LimeGreenSquid Featured By Owner May 26, 2008  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Exactly.
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librarian-of-hell Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2008  Hobbyist Writer
From my observations, girls genetically tend to have less hair everywhere, and that can include extremities. However, I have quite a few atavistic/unusual features (I even had syndactyly as a kid), including hairy arms and legs, a treasure trail, and even hair on my lower back! It was never cut or shaved (god I hate when any kind of my hair is cut, it just feels 'not right';), so it's mostly light and smooth, and straight.

Why do a majority of people think hair is unttractive BTW? I think it can be gorgeous, and looks real, unlike clean-shaven girls. (Same goes for stria.)

On the other hand, I have no idea what "frumpy" is (this is the first time I hear the word, and definitely don't like it by pronunciation). But your character here does indeed look like a hippy librarian stuck in the '60s, lol.
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LimeGreenSquid Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2008  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I don't know why, i feel like body hair should be celebrated among things of beauty and sexuality. What's syndactyly? Was stria the thing you wanted me to make a drawing about a month or so ago? I still haven't gotten around to it, but again i loved the idea ...

From the consensus of my commenters, frumpy seems to be people who dress themselves in oversized sweat-clothes trying their hardest not to be attractive, or something. But for some reason, frumpy in my mind has always been more of a posture type thing ... slouched shoulders, body fat that sags a little more than most fat girls, wearing tank-tops or t-shirts with cardigans and geeky dress pants (damn, i should have drawn her with geeky dress pants, too - i really just drew a hippy girl, didn't i? i should attempt this again) - but i've always found those traits to be sexy in my mind's description of the word, hehe.
(I'm copying and pasting this portion of the comment to everyone since i'm gonna have to re-type my own thoughts about it again for each one anyway, haha)
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librarian-of-hell Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2008  Hobbyist Writer
Syndactyly: when two or more fingers or toes are grown together. I had the flesh only version (no bones involved).

And yes, stria was in my "request" thing, more like an idea... I wish I could draw like you, dammit! :-D

And yup. geeK IS Sexy :-P
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BoomerBOmb Featured By Owner Mar 30, 2008
Uncomfortable with nudity? Then what in the grand old universe are they doing in YOUR gallery?
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LimeGreenSquid Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2008  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I know, right? Haha.
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Lex-Jude Featured By Owner Mar 30, 2008
My arm hair is very fine, soft and blondish, even though I don't have blonde hair. I don't mind it at all. I don't shave it. Although I do know a girl who is very strange about any body hair, and shaves herself once a day. I am only that way with my armpit hair--it just itches me.

And I agree with everyone else. Frumpy is wearing oversized ugly clothes. I also picture them carrying a huge, worn purse with crap spilling out of it. I also picture them with messy make-up and hair. Just my personal view :)
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LimeGreenSquid Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2008  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Haha, that description with the purse is funny.
People are very strange ... it's sad that body hair isn't celebrated as a natural human form of beauty ...

Frumpy in my mind has always been more of a posture type thing ... slouched shoulders, body fat that sags a little more than most fat girls, wearing tank-tops or t-shirts with cardigans and geeky dress pants (damn, i should have drawn her with geeky dress pants, too - i really just drew a hippy girl, didn't i? i should attempt this again) - but i've always found those traits to be sexy in my mind's description of the word, hehe.
(I'm probably copying and pasting this portion of the comment to everyone since i'm gonna have to re-type my own thoughts about it again for each one anyway, haha)
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Farfalla-Dea Featured By Owner Mar 30, 2008  Professional Traditional Artist
When I think of frumpy, I think of 'ill-kept' or having like ill-fitting clothes and just very plain. I think she's cute and fun.

I think most women shave their arm pits. I know I don't for a looooong time. A lot of people see it as 'good grooming' to shave though.

Cute pic.
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LimeGreenSquid Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2008  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Thank you!
Armpits i understand a little more, even though i find hair there sexy, but forearms, i meant. I can't imagine anyone shaving their forearms, but there are people out there who'll do anything if the trend tells them to...

Frumpy in my mind has always been more of a posture type thing ... slouched shoulders, body fat that sags a little more than most fat girls, wearing tank-tops or t-shirts with cardigans and geeky dress pants (damn, i should have drawn her with geeky dress pants, too - i really just drew a hippy girl, didn't i? i should attempt this again) - but i've always found those traits to be sexy in my mind's description of the word, hehe.
(I'm probably copying and pasting this portion of the comment to everyone since i'm gonna have to re-type my own thoughts about it again for each one anyway, haha)
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Farfalla-Dea Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2008  Professional Traditional Artist
:lol:

Oh forearms! I've heard of that... only seen a few people do it. :thinks about if she really has or not: I always thought it was a swimmer's trick or something like that. That's just tooo much shaving for me!

:D
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CozmicDreamer Featured By Owner Mar 30, 2008
There will always be people uncomfortable with nudity. But they have that choice on whether they choose to view it or not.

Arm hair on women is just finer than mens. Lots of women wax it off or use a depilatory. I have it, and it doesn't bother me at all. It is hard to see however.
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LimeGreenSquid Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2008  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Yah, it's just a weird concept to shave arms. It sounds to me as odd as, say, vacuuming the walls, or something, you know?
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CozmicDreamer Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2008
*chuckles*....I agree. :giggle:
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EmperorNortonII Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2008  Professional Traditional Artist
She doesn't look frumpy to me! I like that pudgy tummy showing! I'm tempted to poke her navel!
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LimeGreenSquid Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2008  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Hehe, i always love a good belly below a shirt!
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sOoObEaUtIfUl Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2008
She's so cute. NOT FRUMPY.

When, i think of frumpy i think of 'old lady clothes', if that makes any sense.

anyway fuck those dickheads who dont like the naked stuff.
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LimeGreenSquid Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2008  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Thank you!
But in a way, i think of "old lady clothes", too ... cardigan sweaters, geeky dress pants (i definitely should have given her a cardigan and geeky dress pants instead of the skirt to really portray what i meant - i may attempt this again...) and just some sort of t-shirt or tank-top - but i've always found that to be attractive. That's what the word frumpy "feels like" to me, i can't explain it, hehe.
Some people say it means old lady style, and others say oversized sweats and sweaters. It's a weird word for sure, haha!
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